Standard Base Grading System??

Updated on December 01, 2011
E.B. asks from Tacoma, WA
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What can you tell me about this??

This is the way my School district is now grading.

My son is only in first grade, so it seems easy enough to understand.

Here is where/why I need some knowledge...

The High School by my house had a Student Lead walk out yesterday. Over 100-125 students, Parents and teachers walked out together in protest of this new system. Stating'' it is stack in the kids favor to fail'', mom and teen who walked out together.

I found out about it kinda by fate.

Since I am the Action head for Our Occupation(and education is one of the Demands on our list)I stopped by and spoke with them.

The Junior that arrange the walk out, told me she did so, to stand up against the new grading system our District has adopted. The Standard Base grading.

She had been a pretty good student, before they made the switch. From what I understand of it, school work and homework DO NOT count for any type of credit, towards grades. It is a thing where they have to test on what they have learned, and score with an 80% or higher to get a ''P'' or Pass.

If your school district grades like this, what do you like about it? Where do you think it is failing?

After polling some moms via FB. I am very torn and confused about the whole process.

One of the moms argument was fair....''The class sizes are so big, the kids are not getting the help they need, to fully understand the material being tested on''....... she went on saying this,'' they have cut after school funding to the point it does not exist. Where can the kids go for help? The parents can not be expected to pay for tutors, when they are hardly making ends meet''....both to me were very good points against it...what do you think?

I am asking because they had planned on attending the same School board Meeting, that we as an Occupation were planning on going to. My group is talking about putting a Rally and march on to support the kids. To do this, I need to have a more broad view of the topic. I have not dealt with it for more then three months....so mine is very infant at this point.

to add a Positive to the system....sorry this is an after thought.....It does insist that kids strive to be great. It is holding them up to a high standard, so they can use their full potential. So I can see where they made the switch to try and benefit the kids...but it seems to be back firing.

Thank you in advance:)

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C.M.

answers from Chicago on

This isn't exactly what you're asking, but here is my opinion for all to read :)

The point of school is to teach children what they need to know in order to become productive adults and contribute to our society as well as be happy in their chosen field.

The point of a test is to let the student and the teacher know what was not understood. THAT'S IT! It's not to make a child feel bad for not understanding, it's not to make a permanent mark on their "record" forever showing they didn't understand. It's to say "Hey, here's what you didn't get. Now go back and study it again until you do understand."

In my opinion, ALL kids should graduate with As. Because that means the child has passed all the tests and knows everything he/she needs to know. I personally believe that every child should be able to go back and study what they didn't get and re-take the test until they get it. Then the focus would be on UNDERSTANDING and not Test Taking Ability.

That is truly how you keep children from being left behind.

I'm not saying homeschooling is the answer (because not everyone can or should) but my daughter takes the test at the end of the chapter. If she does poorly we look at the parts she didn't get and go back over it. Then she takes the test again. We do this until she understands and can use the information. Slow process? Sometimes! Worth it? You bet! She doesn't have years of not understanding something piled on top of one another!

If we could have afforded the private school, she would be at the one where she goes at her own pace. Each child works his/her way up through the subjects, and isn't allowed to move on until he/she passes the test. Every child goes at his/her own pace. And you know what? Most of those kids complete their full high school education by age 16. It works!

I think the government needs to take a new look at education. What we're doing isn't working, and making a new grading scale isn't going to save a failing system.

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K.B.

answers from San Francisco on

It is my understanding that the switch is to reflect the No Child Left Behind standards, so ultimately I think the issue with the standards based grading is due to that. The new grading is used to show parents and faculty which students are not meeting their standards. NCLB has increasing benchmarks for every year, so that by 2015 I think, 100% of students are supposed to reach the standards. It's absolutely backfiring, I am anxiously awaiting the day NCLB is abolished, which will only happen when they have something else in place.

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N.B.

answers from Minneapolis on

My daughter is a Staight A student on all homework, class work and projects. No matter how much studying she does..she sucks at testing. ANY kind of testing. Shes a great driver too, really..but failed the Driver test 2 X due to choking on the tasks asked of her and nerves.

She would do awful if it was all based on tests and would likely never advance.

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W.C.

answers from Seattle on

As a former teacher, an a parent, these are my thoughts:

I believe:

that schools have the responsibility to set the objectives that the students need to learn in each grade and class. Objectives are what the students need to learn and they need to be clear and achievable.

that schools have the responsibility to hire enough teachers to teach students and have enough classrooms for students to learn easily. (Federal Way has a history of not doing that)

the teachers must have the materials and reasonable time to teach students to the stated objectives.

that school should be fun for both the student and the teacher.

that parents should support both the teacher and the student.

that schools have the responsibility to "test" student achievement on their stated objectives in reasonable and measurable methods.

that "testing" can be done in many ways. Classwork, teacher observation, homework, normal class testing, and standardized testing. But not on one single test.

That is my opinion and I am sticking to it!

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D.B.

answers from Charlotte on

I don't know about your grading system, Libby, but here are some thoughts. If you look at a state's standardized testing, measurements that are used to see how school districts are doing, and how schools within the districts are doing, you get a feel for certain things. States have particular goals they want schools to reach. Teachers are supposed to write their lesson plans along those goals. Many teachers get together in the same grade or possibly also a grade above or below and work out "where" they are supposed to be by the end of the semester or year. That way, there aren't "gaps" between what one teacher teaches and what another one teaches, since children will be mixed up between teachers in the next grade up the next year.

When changes are made, which happens because education standards are always trying to change with the times, it is HARD on everyone. It's like going from papers written in triplicate with carbon paper, to a typewriter with a memory in it (before the word processor.) Then the word processor. THEN the computer and Word. (I'm using this as analogy.) The old reading, writing, and 'rithmetic is not enough in this day and age. Kids have to learn more in order to be able to compete in colleges and universities, or be ready to walk into more streamlined jobs. Even the lower end jobs have to have more education nowadays.

There will always be a segment of students that will take it on the chin when these changes are made. I don't think that the answer is to not make changes. The answer is to find a way to shepherd the affected kids through it.

Some teachers have been dealing with this problem by "teaching to the test". Some teachers somehow teach to the test AND get more interesting material in there too. I do think that alot has to do with the specific talents of the teacher. Not all, though. Just think how hard it is for a teacher who has many levels of abilities in the same classroom.

Our school is rather large and has many levels of classes, from special education, to the level for kids who don't expect to go to college, but want to go into the workforce after high school (trades like auto-mechanic, childcare, etc), regular level courses that I would think would be more appropriate for community college study after high school, or easier colleges, and honors level courses and AP. I love that there are so many choices. I hate that it is hard to get to pick the more interesting stuff that kids might really like to TRY in high school before going on to college. If you are college bound, you need to take college levels courses like honors and AP. That pretty much precludes you from taking a business course that could actually help you decide if you want to major in business later on.

But I digress. The point I should be making is that the state needs to test kids to see if they are learning enough to be graduating with certain certificates. There are usually different certificate levels. (At least in the big schools, and depending on states.) This is the benchmark they have to look at to see if schools need to have new leadership, new teachers, etc. The schools are hamstrung to meet the expectations. In our area, non-performing schools have been closed. These schools are the ones with all the poor inner-city kids. It is a terrible thing for them - they are already at risk, and all of a sudden, all the familiar teachers are gone, and they are shipped off somewhere else.

There are no easy answers, see? It is kind of like that awful post berating anyone on public assistance that the 21 year old wrote, throwing out ideas like not allowing those on public assistance to have children, or to vote. This kid "thinks" they could just fix all the welfare problems there are by cutting people off at the knees, so to speak. The teachers and students who did the walk-out feel that what they are doing can fix everything, too. (At least they aren't so nasty about it as the 21 year old with the computer!) However, things are NOT so simple for either thing. Without standards, we can't figure out where we stand in graduating young adults who need to be ready to go out into the world. Without standards, we don't know who is doing their job and who isn't. The kids in the middle of this NEED some help - that is obvious - but who will pay for it? The budget is in constraint, people aren't paying enough taxes because they are unemployed, or underemployed, property taxes are down because so many homes are in foreclosure, and we don't have enough educated volunteers to help these kids. Even the 21 year old's idea that if you are on public assistance that you have to work won't help THIS. Most of the folks on public assistance aren't trained to help with high school statistics and pre-calc. I'm not on public assistance, I have a college degree, and I can't do stat or pre-calc!!! I feel sorry for the highschoolers - I do. But I will tell you this, Libby. We in America are SO LUCKY that there is a college for everyone. A kid can have a 2.0 and a 21 on his or her ACT or a 900 on the SAT and STILL find a great college to go to. With hard work and determination, that mediocre student from high school CAN walk into a decent job. One doesn't have to have an Ivy League education.

I know the students are having a hard time, but really and truly, it's a different mindset, studying for standardized testing. The students who want to do it, can. They can go to the library and read about how. Where there's a will, there's a way. Whether or not it's the right thing to be protesting en masse about, I can't tell you. I CAN say that nothing is easy about any of this, and nothing is simple.

Dawn

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B.

answers from Augusta on

My opinion, not knowing much about this system:

Homework should never be graded period. It should always be used as a practice tool , that is how it works best.
Class work is all essentially practice I do not like the 80% number. That should be lowered to 75%. If the system is utilized correctly just grading on tests SHOULD work, but the pass/fail without extra feed back as in how well did the student pass takes away from anyone being better than anyone else , no ones feelings get hurt, that does not give students the motivation to strive for anything better than "good enough" which is part of what's wrong with kids today. No one is allowed to be the "best" for fear of hurting someones feelings.

In our school anything below a 70 is an F
D is 70-73
C is 74-79
B is 80-89
A 90 -100

I don't like how ours are set up a D is 3 points ! What used to be a D now is an F .

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